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Planets had to come before the Sun

If the Sun came first, the planets would spin clockwise. The dust closest to the Sun would revolve faster than the dust at the outside.  This applies a clockwise torque on a body forming in the dust..


Planets had to come before the Sun

If the Sun came first, the planets would spin clockwise. The dust closest to the Sun would revolve faster than the dust at the outside.  This applies a clockwise torque on a body forming in the dust..

All solid and liquid matter was generated by Chemistry before the Sun was formed.

The metal elements combined with oxygen like frost is generated and then burns when the mass is sufficient to support combustion.

A truism

“It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reass

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Updated Theory on Formation of the Solar System

Here it is:
July 22, 2017
The Science Community has been trying to explain how the Solar System was built for over 400 years. The theory has always been a version that has dust and gases collapsing and forming the Sun and then the 8 planets and moons form from what was left over. They have never succeeded, but they are still trying. There are way too many characteristics of the Solar System that leftover dust can’t accomplish.
I realized that any bodies forming in dust that is orbiting around the Sun would rotate clockwise (CW), since the pre-solar nebula rotates counterclockwise (CCW). Dust orbiting the farthest out from the center is going slower than dust closer in, if there is a Sun, so the body would be torqued clockwise. I started looking for a better way.
The only way to get our 8 planets to spin CCW was to have them form before the Sun. That is when the dust farthest out from the center is fastest. If this were the case, then all mass in the Sun would have had to come in as solid objects surrounded by Hydrogen and Helium: Gas giants, moons and asteroids.
This scenario begged the question of how did planets form, or for that matter, moons and asteroids? I eventually arrived at a five-step process that produces exactly what we have now. These steps may sound too simple or too revolutionary, but they work and can be backed up by math, physics and chemistry.
1. Oxygen frosts onto metal particles and accrete into rotating ”snow” balls. The metals were in separate zones throughout the pre-solar nebula. The nebula was not a homogeneous mixture.
2. When the mass of an Oxygen/metal ball reached about asteroid size, it ignited and produced a molten mineral asteroid. Millions are produced throughout the nebula.
3. Gravity merged the asteroids into moon-size bodies.
4. Gravity merged the moons into planets (gas giants).
5. Gravity merged the gas giants to form the SUN.
Oxygen/metal reaction is where my background as a rocket propulsion engineer specializing in cryogenics came into play. I had seen data that showed that half of the mass of the solar system, excluding Hydrogen and Helium, is Oxygen. I noticed that over half of all minerals outside of the Sun is Oxygen. How did that occur? Cryogenics.
1. When our nebula cooled down toward absolute zero, at around -300 degrees F the Oxygen molecules plated out onto the metal particles (like frost). The Oxygen/metal reactants accreted due to gravity and naturally rotated CCW.
2. At a mass in the asteroid range, the reactants ignited and formed asteroids of liquid minerals. Iron and the noble metals remained pure as asteroids and their reaction in a Hydrogen environment created water. Millions of asteroids formed throughout the nebula.
3. Gravity would pull asteroids together and merge them into moon size objects, still in molten form. Note that thousands of these moons would develop throughout the nebula.
4. The moons would then merge and form gas giant planets hundreds of millions of miles apart. The Hydrogen and Helium would stay with the massive objects.
5.Thousands of these planets would then, over a very long period, merge at the center of the nebula and form the SUN!
So why are our eight planets still here? As the sun was growing, eight planets far out in the ecliptic plane were cycling in. They reached their current distances when the last planet above and below the ecliptic plane fell in and the Sun stopped growing. They were in orbit.
So why are we all not gas giants? Because we were still below -300 degrees F. and covered with solid water, solid carbon dioxide and solid nitrogen. Only the Hydrogen and Helium were gases. The T-Tauri wind cleared the gases from the close-in four planets. The four far out giant planets held onto their gases. So ends that mystery.
It is easy to explain our moons, bare Venus, water, slow Sun rotation, iron cores, planet rotation rates, metal ore isolation, etc. once you build the Sun last. When you run the numbers, it all works out.